Recorded 7.8.20: In this chat, we're joined by our friend Max Chester to talk about college auditions, math theorems, left-handed polar bears, bad puns, friend-families, rough breakfasts, anxiety dreams, stuffed animals, bravery, Eurovision, broken phones, fireworks, chess stalemates, external support, crafting a narrative, finishing our EP ("Different Plans"), and a surprise outro (that may or may not include Play-Doh).